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Prior to that incident, Facebook’s initial public offering on the Nasdaq exchange was marred by poorly performing technology, as was exchange operator Bats Global Markets’ IPO on its own trading venue. Coming just a couple years after the ‘flash crash’ of May 2010, some market participants say recent stumbles show that the current market structure of high-speed electronic trading still needs fixing, and investors are staying away for this reason. Kinniry noted that the Knight incident was isolated to Knight and as such was not evidence of a dysfunctional market. [![](https://articles.marketsmedia.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/Kinniry_Francis_post_thumb2-1.jpg?width=223&height=245&name=Kinniry_Francis_post_thumb2-1.jpg "Kinniry_Francis_post_thumb")](https://articles.marketsmedia.com/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/Kinniry_Francis_post_thumb2-1.jpg) **Francis M. Kinniry**, principal, Vanguard Investment Strategy Group “You have to separate systemic risk, which is risk impacting overall markets, from concentrated risk, whether specific to a firm or individual market participant,” Kinniry told Markets Media. On Aug. 1, “the market including its structure and circuit breakers worked amazingly well, which should add to confidence. And this was a zero-sum game, so while one firm may have lost, people made money on the other side.” More broadly, Kinniry said the perception that investors are fleeing risky assets is largely driven by fund-flow reports that track investment flows out of mutual funds, but do not include increasingly popular exchange-traded funds. “Most of the vendors who discuss and display cash-flow data are continuing to show mutual-fund flows not in aggregate with ETF cash flow,” Kinniry said. “Numbers for open-ended mutual funds do not count the significant flows into ETF assets. When combined, this takes equity flows to positive. Investors are buying equities.” Investors in mutual funds and ETFs hold 39% in U.S. equity and 14% in non-U.S. equity, for a total of 53% in equity. That’s up from 38% in early 2009 and more than the 20-year median of 51%, according to Kinniry. In Kinniry’s view, the story of investors selling equities and buying bonds is also misleading, as it fails to note the flows within fixed income, which money flowing out of money markets and into bonds. “You have to look at the context of how much has been redeemed out of money markets,” Kinniry said. “There has been $1.1 trillion flowing out of money markets over the past five years and $400 billion into bonds. That says investors are confident, as they are leaving money markets and buying duration bonds.” Kinniry also cited recently low levels for the CBOE Volatility Index (VIX), including a decline on August 1, in making the case that recent trading and technology glitches have been one-off events. “We’ve had bottom-quartile, sometimes bottom-decile, VIX for the last 9 months,” Kinniry said. “We have not had a lower-volatility period than December 2011 to May 2012 in eight years.” [Share](https://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=https://articles.marketsmedia.com/what-erosion-of-confidence) [Tweet](https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=US+ETFs+Have+Record+Net+Inflows&url=https://articles.marketsmedia.com/what-erosion-of-confidence) [Share](https://www.linkedin.com/cws/share?url=https://articles.marketsmedia.com/what-erosion-of-confidence) ![email](https://articles.marketsmedia.com/hubfs/Markets%20Media/email.svg) ### NEWSLETTER SIGN UP And receive exclusive articles on securities markets ### Related articles 1. 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